Tuesday, June 24, 2014

It's not complacency

Again and again whenever there's a problem to do with muslims some useful idiot is wheeled out to give some pronouncement about what islam is, who muslims are and what muslims should do. Unfortunately as the idiot isn't usually a muslim they are ignored by muslims who generally take no notice of non-muslims and the rest of us who have come into contact with real islam and know bollocks being spoken when we hear it.
Mail.
Muslim communities in Britain are guilty of ‘complacency and passivity’ over the threat from home-grown jihadists, the UK’s top counter-terrorism officer warned last night.
The Metropolitan Police’s Assistant Commissioner, Cressida Dick, said there were many cases where ‘warning signs’ about extremists were not brought to the attention of authorities.
She also indicated some Muslims were too accepting of radical views, saying it was the police’s ‘greatest challenge’ to make them ‘wholly hostile to violent extremism’.
Her comments came as the Government was confronted with a damning assessment by a former head of the military of Britain’s capacity to confront terrorism.
Lord Richards of Herstmonceux, chief of the defence staff until last year, said the military was ‘not good enough’ to deal with the global threat from jihadis.
The crossbench peer, formerly General Sir David Richards, called for a rise in defence spending and warned that without it, the effectiveness of the Armed Forces would inevitably deteriorate further.
I'm pretty sure such warnings were given over the Nazi party too.
No, the complacency lies with those in authority and the political classes who don't see the real threat because they don't live with it. It's the same reason that criminals get off lightly and the Human Rights Act has become such a burden on our society with its allowing violent criminals to remain amongst us. The muslim communities are not complacent, they've at best given tacit consent to the preachers who are encouraging  jihadism in this country as jihad as they see it is a noble cause no matter how ignoble its methodology as it's usually carried out against non-muslims and they aren't real people. That is the problem of trying to dictate to something that has tied its barbarism to religious trappings, you are dealing with faith, a written book and traditions which encourage barbarism and it's run by a bunch of imam's who see no reason to moderate what the quran and hadiths say, most of it coming from the life and works of a murderous child molesting slaver with a psychopathic god complex.
So no, telling muslims what they should do won't work, if you aren't a muslim then your words are meaningless, four times as meaningless if you're a woman.
Yet it doesn't stop idiots like Cameron and Cressida Dick telling us and muslims what islam is and what it should be doing.
Nor apparently those in power deliberately disarming our military strength to deal with them in the future.

Monday, June 23, 2014

Apparently we're thick

It appears that in certain political circles that a conclusion has been reached that one of the reasons people voted for Ukip is that they weren't computer literate, didn't know how to send emails and look things up via google. In other words we're thick...
Telegraph.
Ukip voters feel disconnected from mainstream politics because they don’t know how to send emails or browse the internet, Labour’s shadow business secretary has suggested.
Chuka Umunna, said that “a lot of those voting for Ukip” in the local and general elections were not computer literate and “can’t do things like” sending and receiving emails or browsing the internet.
The UK Independence Party stormed to victory at the European elections, the first time since 1906 that a party other than the Conservatives or Labour had won a national election.
Nigel Farage's party also picked up more than 100 seats from Labour, the Tories and the Lib Dems in council elections nationally.
This does seem a bit rich from a party who used to rely on votes from working class communities to the extent of a running joke that if you put a red rosette on a donkey it would get in. Thing is though that those communities and groups who traditionally voted labour wised up when said Labour government flooded their communities with masses of immigrants who caused problems and disruption for the people there reducing wages in semi skilled jobs and removing the chances for the school leavers to find work. The strain on health facilities and education as well as the ongoing sensation that they were taking the pee over benefits as well as the feeling often enough that when you went shopping you were no longer in an English speaking country was just the icing on the cake as it were.
Yet these people aren't stupid, they can use computers, pads and phones to see what's going on, the read headlines and they've learned not to trust said headlines or politicians who spout off about who or what they think they are and why they do what they do.
Essentially Labour like the Tories are losing traditional voters because in their scramble to make new friends they trampled over their old ones and in the case of Labour called them racist bigots to boot.
For years political parties have presumed their core groups would vote for the proverbial donkey with a coloured rosette, they are now finding that it was possible to go too far in their arrogance and hubris, they no longer can count on our support so believe us to be stupid or ignorant.
Once again it appears that they never learn...

Sunday, June 22, 2014

Never met a tax they didn't like

There are those out there who are determined to force us into doing something they think is good for us. They've tried persuasion, they've tried restrictions, their current favourite is price controls and that's something which as ever gives our ever avaricious politicians ideas...
BBC.
A campaign group has called on the UK government to introduce a "sugar tax" to help curb childhood obesity.
Action on Sugar has produced a seven-point plan to discourage children from consuming foods and soft drinks with high levels of added sugar.
The group wants measures brought in to cut added sugar in food by 40% by 2020, to cut fat in foods and to ban sports sponsorship by "junk food" companies.
The Department of Health has said it will consider the recommendations.
Action on Sugar is a group of specialists concerned with sugar and its effects on health. It says one in five 10-11 year olds in the UK are now obese, while one in three are overweight.
The group has produced an action plan for the government following a request for its views from Health Secretary Jeremy Hunt.
Almost perfect, you can just feel the emotive phrase 'it's for the children' rising like a turd in a cesspool on any justification for the tax which will price many foodstuffs away from those on lower incomes.
Now I will be honest and admit that there do appear to be far more overweight kids around than when I was young, though we never seemed to have a problem with getting hold of sugary sweets of various kinds. What we did have was a far more active lifestyle, limited tv, no computer games, no social media. So we walked, ran, cycled and generally behaved like little savages in our inter tribal gang warfare.
So, the problem isn't that kids are eating too much sugar, it's that kids live a far more sedentary lifestyle, what with few schools offering sports (voluntary or not) and the paranoia from parents about letting their kids play in the street due to traffic/paedo's etc.
What we are being lined up for is a tax grab by unscrupulous politicians similar to that of green taxation and the oft proposed but never implemented alcohol tax forbidden by the EU.
Prodnose pressure groups like this for all they may have some well meaning members are never a good idea for the general public as they rarely contain members of the general public. Their focus is often too narrow and they rarely see the big picture which is why I suspect politicians like them so much. Any group proposing a tax hike is likely to get the attention of a politician particularly if they think they can sell it back to the public and a for the children meme is no doubt a winner in their minds.
Expect a raft of such measures in the near future as the global warming scam finally comes off the rails...

Saturday, June 21, 2014

Lowest common denominator

One of the main reasons for the failures in some of the state schools is that they default to having to try to spend more resources teaching those at the bottom end of the learning spectrum. The brightest and best have a tendency to become bored or are simply ignored as teachers struggle to cope with the disruptive and struggling in their classes. Because of the insistence of only moving kids forward one year at a time and massive resistance to streaming the brightest into their own classes to learn at a higher pace, we ended up with a train crash of an education system...
Express.
COMPREHENSIVE schools are still linked with “mediocrity and failure”, the chief schools’ inspector said yesterday.
Sir Michael Wilshaw, head of watchdog Ofsted, believes too many are still clinging on to poor teaching methods which are a “throwback to the 1960s and 1970s”, such as “informal learning”.
He also attacked a lack of academic rigour, a neglect of basic literacy and numeracy and a resistance to exams and “meaningful” qualifications.
Sir Michael warned that nearly one in five is not up to scratch and many others are in a “constant battle to avoid slipping backwards”.
In a speech at Wellington College in Berkshire he said: “Even though the ideology that afflicted so many... has been largely discredited, its damaging effects remain.”
These include a half-hearted pursuit of high standards and a toleration of poor behaviour.
As mentioned above, one of the reasons for a half hearted pursuit of high standards is many teachers are forced to deal with kids who don't want to learn to the detriment of those who do. Add to this a heady mix of uncontrolled immigration and a set of pupils who initially do not understand English any too well and the situation is far worse than it need be.
Once upon a time we had two types of schooling, grammar and modern, kids took the 11 plus exam and the brightest went to grammar schools the rest went to the modern system which was biased towards trade skills rather than academic ones. It wasn't particularly fair to the late developers, but it worked and owing to misplaced leftard delusions of fairness it had to go so all could have prizes. So instead of helping the best we had to do the best they could, we drowned them in a sea of comprehensive education.
We have sacrificed far too many of our children on a bed of political dogma where teaching methods and curriculum were messed with by politicians and leftard so called academics until we have the situation where a lot of kids now leave school barely literate and numerate, something almost unheard of in my generation.
Fairness is for adults, not kids, the schooling system should be aimed at getting the best out of all, but streamed towards the brightest getting preferential treatment. No, it isn't fair, but it will work.

Friday, June 20, 2014

All must have prizes

For a long time now the policy in state schools by those whose allegiance to the left both in government and in teaching has been to downgrade sport. They followed a policy (however idiotic) that competition was somehow denigrating to those who did not win and this somehow damaged them.. Rather than assisting them to understand how the real world worked with winners and losers, they went for an all must have prizes groupthink which as kids are not stupid simply meant that the brighter and better ones simply didn't bother to apply discipline in sport to themselves and those who couldn't thought they were better somehow than they were.
BBC.
Too many state-school pupils are denied the chance to take part in competitive sport by head teachers who treat it as an "optional extra", says Ofsted.
Schools where pupils lack opportunities to excel in sport tend to have worse academic results, says a report from the watchdog.
It explores why so many top athletes are from private schools.
The National Union of Teachers said Ofsted's comparison between state and private school sport was "ridiculous".
The report, Going the extra mile: Excellence in competitive school sport, was commissioned after the 2012 Olympics to explore why so many Team GB athletes had been educated in private rather than state schools.
The report finds that in the most successful schools, both state and private, heads recognise that competitive sport can help build an ethos and boost grades.
Strong teams rely on teachers prepared to dedicate time and energy before, during and after school, as well as at weekends, say the authors.
Staff need to be able to identify talented pupils for extra coaching and ensure matches are accessible to everyone else, they add.
Not every state school of course, but the majority simply fail to see sport as a necessity in developing the children in a positive way. Nor does the NUT's bleat about  State schools having neither the same facilities nor time and space in the curriculum for sport as independent schools hold much water either, facilities possibly, but time? I'm pretty sure that independent schools teach the same curriculum generally as the state ones, though perhaps without the namby pamby leftard nonsense like climate change and multicultural bullshit.
A lot of this is down to political meddling with the curriculum in the past and no doubt future politicians will try to get into the act as well. Yet education is far too important to leave in the hands of anyone who has an agenda other than producing a bright and well educated next generation. Playing political skittles with kids brains to try to be fair to those who don't do so well has been a disaster, kids generally don't think like that anyway and so switch off from the process.
The ethos of all must have prizes needs to go and be replaced with a competitive edge. Sure there will be some who fail, but the winners will gain self confidence and the losers will develop mechanisms to cope and succeed in other ways.
Don't hold your breath on things changing soon though, those who believe that all must have prizes are too well entrenched in education to let go easily.

Thursday, June 19, 2014

Storm in a (Daily Mail) teacup

Certain news papers have certain agendas which come out obviously when you read them, they're either populist or in other cases designed to get the readerships blood boiling. The Daily Mail has a reputation of winding its readers up with stories about immigrants, criminals cocking a snook at the law, the dangers to children from porn etc. They're good at it too, but relentlessly authoritarian as the response is usually to ban or demand ever more laws.
Mail.
Thieves, burglars and violent thugs will be free to work in schools, hospitals and care homes after a ruling by judges.
The Supreme Court said thousands of criminals should be allowed to wipe their record clean so they are not haunted forever by past offences.
The change means people will not be forced to disclose some convictions to prospective employers – because this breaches their human rights. Those affected by the ruling include people applying for certain kinds of jobs involving work with children or vulnerable adults.
Up to now, anyone wanting to work in these areas has had to disclose any previous convictions or cautions, which stayed on their records indefinitely. But a panel of five Supreme Court judges yesterday upheld a Court of Appeal judgement that blanket checks could breach a person’s right to a private or family life.
The Home Office challenged that judgement, saying it compromised the protection of children and vulnerable groups, but in the meantime introduced a system to filter out single minor convictions or cautions during an enhanced criminal records check.
Actually I'm with the Supreme Court on this one, caught nicking a bicycle age 11 shouldn't mean that you be denied a job working in a care home at age 25. Under the old rehabilitation of Offenders act, any crime which got you a prison sentence of less than ten years did not have to be declared after ten years had passed. It was presumed if you could stay out of trouble over ten years, you'd reformed. CRB checks, particularly the enhanced ones more or less told your past criminal history back to the year of your birth. Sure it kept the dangerous ones away from the vulnerable, though it couldn't prevent one off's or check on those who did a crime after being offered the job.
Some crimes are of course going to remain on the checks, the sex offenders register is not covered by this ruling. Crimes of violence in certain categories will also mean you remain on the register after ten years. Expunging a caution because of drunken folly after five years however will.
It means those who have reformed their lives after perhaps a stupid mistake will now be able to find work in expanded areas. Hopefully the ruling will still keep the dangerous ones out.
But lurid headlines sell papers and the Mail is convinced paedogeddon is on its way because a guy who stole a bicycle when 11 in 2002 is going to have his criminal record expunged.
The blanket CRB check one size fits all was never a good idea. Giving people a chance after time has passed is.

Wednesday, June 18, 2014

Silly talk

Cameron went on record telling us that the gravest threat to the UK was the ISIS group (Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant) currently causing trouble in Iraq. The reason he thinks they are trouble is that jihadis from the UK are amongst them and they may come back armed and extremely dangerous.
Express.
INSURGENCIES led by religious extremists in Iraq and Syria are the most serious danger Britain faces today, David Cameron has warned.
The Prime Minister insisted the prospect of battle-hardened jihadists returning to the UK was a “real threat to our country”.
But he denied that the Government was restoring diplomatic links with neighbouring Iran in a bid to win Tehran’s help to quell the spread of Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIS) militants.
Speaking at a joint press conference with Chinese premier Li Keqiang, Mr Cameron said: “No-one should be in any doubt that what we see in Syria and now in Iraq in terms of ISIS is the most serious threat to Britain’s security that there is today.
“The number of foreign fighters in that area, the number of foreign fighters including those from the UK who could try to return to the UK this is a real threat to our country.
“We will do absolutely everything we can to keep our people safe. That means stopping people from going, it means arresting people who are involved in plots, it means focusing our security, our policing, our intelligence effort on to that area of the world, on to those people.”
My solution is simpler, revoke their passports if they go or are proven to be out there.
Naturally there are leftards comparing the jihadi's who go as equivalents to the Brits who went to fight for the International  Brigades during the Spanish civil war in the 1930's though then they went to fight tyranny (as they saw it) rather than take part and revel in it. Most came back disillusioned with war too, though somehow for our jihadi's I cannot see this being the case.
Nor do I believe cosying up to Iran is wise, their government which is essentially controlled by religious clerics and is pretty much the other side of the same coin, just as fanatical but with the resources of a large state behind it.
Meddling in that area ought to become a maxim similar to that of never getting involved in a land war in south east Asia, it's simply not worth the time or effort and no matter what you do they are going to hate you anyway. Nor should we allow them to come here spreading their poison.
We should simply sell them arms and play one (or multiple) sides off against each other whilst making sure the oil flows.
We can always talk to the last man standing... eventually.

Tuesday, June 17, 2014

I doubt this will change things

A government funded survey has told the political classes that they ignore the rise of anti-immigrant sentiments at their peril. Problem being that as they don't live with the people who have to live amongst the problems being caused by mass uncontrolled immigration and the debacle of multiculturalism where every other culture but the native one is prized and the native one is held in contempt by many of the political classes as racist and bigoted because it does not live as they do in their comfortable little bubble.
Telegraph.
Politicians have contributed to a rise in anti-immigrant sentiment because of a widening “disconnect” between the “liberal political class” and public opinion, the UK’s most authoritative barometer of public opinion suggests.
Almost half the population now believes that a decade of mass migration has not only harmed the economy but undermined “British culture”, the annual British Social Attitudes survey shows.
The “persistent public anxiety” over immigrant numbers is something the main political parties “ignore at their peril”, the Government-funded study warns.
Significantly, the study — which has been charting public opinion for more than 30 years — found signs of a rejection of a multicultural notion of Britishness.
In striking contrast with a decade ago, when the survey showed rising acceptance of minorities, increasing numbers now single out factors such as being born in the UK or having “British ancestry” as important elements of “British” identity.
A decade ago perhaps we were a little more tolerant, but the determination of the thrice damned Labour Party to rub the so called right's nose in multiculturalism has stretched that tolerance to the limit. Nor does the article mention where the real stresses in society lie. EU immigration is a problem, but it's solvable by taking us out of the EU as most of their immigrants don't have UK citizenship and will have to leave. The ones that are here such as the Poles etc aren't that big a problem though groups such as Roma are a bloody nuisance. The real problem has been the governments invitation of islamic immigrants whose creed and practices are anathema to everything that Western civilisation stands for. The political classes permitted them to get away with said practices by either ignoring them or rounding on those who did complain as racist or bigoted for having the temerity to say something critical about their little brown buddies. hence we had the grooming scandals, Female genital mutilation, homophobia, misogyny, a rise in genetic defects due to the tribal custom of marrying first cousins, militantism and finally murder on our streets as this alien creed refuses to integrate and see 'us' as the problem, not them All of this was swept under the carpet by leftards in local and national government until finally they could keep their squalid little secrets no more and the rise of groups who knew what was going on and were going to fight it became inevitable.
Yet still the political classes cannot and will not change, much of what I said above simply does not affect them.
Sooner or later we'll have civil war and they will be to blame...

Monday, June 16, 2014

The last refuge of the scoundrel

Now there are times when wrapping yourself in the flag is a sign of genuine patriotism, though it should really be left to sports fans or ordinary people. When members of the political classes start to do so or promote 'British' or 'UK' values then you you know that they're getting desperate about something or trying to hide something.
Express.
DAVID Cameron has demanded a British uprising to promote democratic values and stop extremism which has been allowed to "flourish" on our soil.
The Prime Minister has spelt out a call to be more British, backing Education Secretary Michael Gove's plans to promote British values in the classroom, with proposals to also add the Magna Carta to the curriculum.
Mr Cameron has called Brits to be more "muscular" in flying the flag for democracy, freedom of speech, tolerance and equality saying these values are "as British as the Union Flag, football and fish and chips."
His rigid stance appears to be a direct response to the 'Trojan Horse' scandal which revealed Islamist extremism in schools in Birmingham.
He said: "It isn't enough simply to respect these values in schools. They're not options, they're the core of what it is to live in Britain.
"In recent years we have been in danger of sending out a worrying message: that if you don't want to believe in democracy, that's fine; that if equality isn't your bag, don't worry about it; that if you're completely intolerant of others, we will still tolerate you. That's not just led to division, it has also allowed extremism - of both the violent and non-violent kind - to flourish. We need to be far more muscular in promoting British values and the institutions that uphold them."
As ever, a politician is running roughly ten years behind the rest of us.
The thing is though the majority indigenous groups no longer recognise themselves as British, they tend now to think of themselves as English, Scots, Welsh and most unfortunate of all and where the real problem stems from, muslim. Indeed the only groups with a tendency to think of themselves as British are the Northern Irish and any number of immigrant groups who tag 'British' before or after their country of origin, even if they've been born here.
Cameron seems to be following in the footsteps of the former PM Gordon 'Jonah' Brown who had a thing about British values whilst doing his level best to remove the English as a political force by mass uncontrolled immigration.
In essence things are getting worse as the politicians are struggling to cope with immigrant groups who are used to the idea because its been promoted within them by leftards and libtards that they can tell anyone who criticises them to get lost, whilst calling the indigents racist to boot. Naturally they fall back on the flag and try to rally support, a support which isn't really there anymore... not for politicians anyway.
Still, you know things are really getting bad when the Prime Minister does this, so I wonder what he knows that we don't?

Sunday, June 15, 2014

Time to stop the postal vote?

Postal votes were originally set up to assist those who could not make it to a polling station to vote in an election. Right up until the previous government they were a good idea and enabled the ill and the elderly their chance to have their say on an election. Come 2001 and Tony Blair's Labour government the rules changed and anyone was allowed to apply for a postal vote, not just those where under strict criteria it was deemed unreasonable to expect a them to go to a polling station on polling day as a result of employment, disability or education restrictions.Generous of Labour wasn't it, after all, what could go wrong?
Telegraph.
A police investigation into fake voters in Tower Hamlets has been widened to include fake candidates after at least two fielded by the borough’s extremist-linked mayor, Lutfur Rahman, in last month’s elections appear to have given false addresses.
One of the candidates is standing again in a council by-election next month using a different name from the one he gave only three weeks ago – and a second, apparently false, address.
Making a false statement on a nomination paper is a criminal offence punishable by up to six months’ imprisonment.
The Telegraph has also identified a number of fake postal votes cast at last month’s election by people who do not live at the properties the votes were cast from.
Other, genuine postal voters told this newspaper that their blank postal ballot papers had been taken from them, against their will, by people working for Mr Rahman, even though they did not want to vote for him.
 Ah yes, the islamic republic of Tower Hamlets, quelle surprise. Unfortunately the electoral traditions of Pakistan and Bangladesh have been brought to this country by immigrants and their idea of a vote is pretty much vote early and often. Indeed the Pakistani and Bangladeshi governments have commented that our electoral scrutiny of voters is appallingly weak compared to their own systems which have been designed to prevent fraud.
Now I really don't want to take a vote away from anyone, but the system as it is needs to go back to what it was or scrapping completely and something else set up in its place. Electoral fraud is a serious problem in the UK now and certain communities led by unscrupulous, corrupt (and often extremist) leaders have used it to get votes necessary to force their candidates and supporters into political power.
I don't know if Rahman would have won without the postal votes, but it wouldn't surprise me if he hadn't, nor do I see any real solution other than removing the postal vote from any who aren't disabled and going back to the original system.

Saturday, June 14, 2014

A problem of their own creation

Apparently with little else to do because the EU makes up most of our laws other than try and figure out how to sell an intervention in Iraq to us (not going to happen) our MP's are decrying the lack of action in dealing with tobacco smuggling. It's the usual 'something must be done meme' being advanced by those who don't realise that the problem isn't really a problem at all, but a self inflicted wound caused by their own actions.
BBC.
Efforts to tackle tobacco smuggling have been hampered by a "farcical" lack of action by the government and its agencies, a committee of MPs has said.
The number of illicit cigarettes smoked in the UK rose by 49% to a billion in 2012, suggesting a reduction in enforcement action, the MPs said.
The Commons home affairs select committee said the failure to deal with rogue products was "of grave concern".
HM Revenue and Customs said tackling tobacco smuggling was "a priority".
The committee was particularly critical of the failure to fine a single firm for deliberately oversupplying cigarettes to high-risk markets in order for them to be smuggled back to the UK.
Taxpayers lose out on around £2bn in unpaid duty because of the illegal trade.
If the idiots in charge of us hadn't made the price of the things so expensive in the first place then smuggling them wouldn't be a lucrative activity by those who do it. If it didn't pay to do it, then they simply wouldn't bother and as for those who buy them, well it's clear they couldn't give a damn who supplies them as they look at the price from a man in a van and the state price in the shops and it's simply no contest. This is the lessons learned by the USA during prohibition, if people want something and its banned or priced artificially high then the criminals will come in and start selling it to the law abiding. Essentially the government have driven a lot of smokers into the hands of criminals and are now bitching that its costing them £2 billion in revenue.
The answers simple, drop the price and regain the revenue, however that's never going to happen as there are others out there who hate the idea that people smoke and it is they who at root have caused the loss in revenue and are not willing to compromise so want crooks arrested not realising that there are more out there to jump into the gap (and our prisons are full)
Anyway, this is definitely one to sit back and get the popcorn out as neither side will admit they made a mistake and the loss of revenue will continue to roll into the pockets of the criminal classes. That plus smokers are getting a bargain too and that's going to rub the noses of the anti-smoking brigade right into the mess of their own making.

Friday, June 13, 2014

Not our problem

Whilst the passport crisis carries on with people struggling to get out of the country and Labour blaming the Home Secretary personally for it (as if it's her job to check passports) let us turn our gaze over to those struggling to get in... illegally.
Mail.
Migrants in the French port of Calais have gone on hunger strike demanding to be let into Britain.
Around 35 refugees from Afghanistan and Egypt have vowed to refuse food until a list of demands issued to Calais officials is met.
The hunger strikers are being backed by around 260 more migrants all calling for the French and British authorities to resume talks aimed at allowing them to move legally to Britain.
Hold on a sec, it's Friday so let me check my notes here..


Nope really struggling here as to why I should give a damn if illegal immigrants in Calais starve themselves to death whilst waiting for the UK government to let them in. The clue is in the word illegal of course, that plus being Afghani's and Egyptians essentially means they are islamics (most likely) and more trouble than they are probably worth.
We have a big enough issue in the UK at the moment with legal immigration and now a bunch of people want  to force the UK government and the French to resume talks (why were we talking anyway?) to let them in.
The fact that they are trying blackmail should mean an automatic NO! in the first place, governments simply cannot capitulate to blackmail or threats over issues like this, if they did it simply sets the ball rolling for the next bunch to try. That in essence is why I'm opposed to an amnesty on illegals in the country, give in once and the next bunch will pour in hoping for the same as a precedent has been set.
No this bunch of chancers are going to have to wait till the next Labour government to open the floodgates for them to get in. Or try to get in illegally as most of their brethren do...