So don't let them come back #2

Learned a bit more about the radical islamists from this country and France fighting in the Syrian civil war. Seems there are a good few more than was first feared.
Express.

AS MANY as 700 Britons are fighting with Al Qaeda linked extremists in war torn Syria, France’s President Francois Hollande warned today.
He said a similar number from France had also travelled there, making the issue one of the most serious facing his country and the UK.
The two countries have agreed closer cross-Channel co-operation to keep track of potential jihadists.
Intelligence services and counter-terrorism experts worry that home grown fighters will return from Syria radicalised and ready to use violence as a means of achieving their goals.
The figure of 700 Britons in Syria is almost double the most recent expert estimate.

There are reports of these people being radicalised and trained as fighters although I rather suspect anyone going to Syria to fight was pretty radical enough.
Thing is, we don't need these people coming back and practising their new skill set here, unfortunately the likelihood is that they will and will even radicalise more fighters by becoming their role models.
I know the government can't or won't do it due to international pressure, but these people have no business being allowed back in the country and their passports should be revoked.
We have enough problems with islamists in this country without allowing another bunch back who see the solution to any problem as to kill it. No these are not soldiers, they have no discipline other than the gun, they will not be useful members of society when they do come back.
So don't let them back...
Simple.

Typical

It's amazing what the legal profession getup too in their never ceasing quest to grab cash off the taxpayer. Take the case of Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed, the guy who was under a terrorist watch system and then absconded from a mosque wearing a burka. Now I'm pretty sure the police want a word with him and would like to know his whereabouts.
It does appear though that his lawyers know where the terror suspect is, as he's instructed them to appeal the order which requires that his whereabouts are known...
Express.

BRITAIN’S £1billion legal aid gravy train was branded “absurd” yesterday after it emerged tax­payers are funding an appeal by a terror suspect while on the run.
Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed, 27 – who is feared to have had terrorist training – wore a burka to flee a mosque and evade control orders last November.
He has been missing ever since but was still granted legal aid.
Now his lawyers are asking Appeal Court judges in London to quash High Court orders aimed at protecting the public.
The October 2012 High Court rulings upheld a decision by the Home Secretary to restrict Mohamed’s movements.
Legal aid costs taxpayers more than £1billion a year, with some barristers raking in more than £500,000 from such fees.

Kind of unbelievable that a guy who is a fugitive and technically on the run from the law still has access to legal aid. I could kind of understand it if he was appealing it whilst living under the conditions, but he isn't and if anything rather proves that he must have something to hide by going on the run.
Personally I'm of the opinion that anyone who goes abroad to get terrorist training ought not to be allowed back in the UK, however that's common sense talking, the legal system is far more absurd than that and common sense approaches need not apply. Though it appears anything unlike a common sense approach will qualify for legal aid.
Now I don't know if Mohammed Ahmed Mohamed is a danger to us, I rather suspect he is, but I've no proof, what I do know is that if he's on the run then legal aid should not apply... not now, not ever.
If he hands himself back in and goes back under the restrictions fine, we'll look at that, but no aid until he does.
Sadly it appears that's not going to happen...

Rights and wrongs

I have often railed against human rights abuses when known criminals have used various clauses to remain in the UK, the most common being the right to a family life, which has even been used by a serial child abuser to remain, such are the soft touches that make up our senior judges today. I'm also aware that there are some out there who have committed no crimes yet are watched as the security forces know that they are a risk to the general public.
Mail.

An Al Qaeda-trained bomb-maker was last night free to walk Britain’s streets under a cloak of state-sanctioned anonymity.
The fanatic is one of seven men released from Government anti-terror control orders this month under rules meant to protect their human rights.
He undertook terror training in Pakistan and was named as an alleged terrorist by an American supergrass whose evidence helped to foil a massive UK bomb plot. The 41-year-old was part of a London group of Islamist extremists that included one of those who plotted to blow up the Ministry of Sound nightclub and Bluewater shopping centre in 2004.

Am I happy about this guy walking amongst us? No, I would have thought such a creature would have been banned from living here, however I'm not the one who makes up the rules.
That said, he does have a right to anonymity, if only because he hasn't actually committed a crime here and much as I'm loath to admit it in his case, it's a right I believe any decent society ought to have.
If however he does go on to commit some form of atrocity here, I will be amongst the first to be wondering why he was allowed to wander around unmonitored. But so far other than allegations, he hasn't been convicted of anything.
This probably need regulations for monitoring suspects with far more teeth than the T-PIMS but that is by the bye, until convicted or arrested then these people have a right to be give enough rope to hang themselves in anonymity.
After all, if it works to protect them, it works to protect us...

So don't let them come back.

The government and law enforcement are apparently worried that the islamoloons who went out to Syria to join in their civil war might just be coming back intent on jihad here. Unfortunately it seems that they couldn't even do a half-way decent job and get themselves killed over there so the government is (sort of) looking for ways to keep them under control.
Express.

SYRIA's bloody civil war is increasing fears over the threat of radicalised extremist fighters returning to Britain.
It is thought more than 200 Britons are currently in the Middle East nation.
Already this year, at least 16 people are reported to have been held as part of a new security crackdown.
They are accused of returning from fighting in Syria or attending a training camp, or planning or attempting to travel to the battle-worn country.
One counter-extremist group warned the domestic threat from Syria's war could prove greater than that sparked by British involvement in Afghanistan.

You'd think that the simple solution would simply be to revoke their passports, it's not likely we'll have any use for them in the future if all they want to do is slay the enemies of islam now is it? Just imagine several hundred of the ilk that butchered Lee Rigby wandering our streets and turning any problems they have into violence simply because that's the way they think.
Not that I think the view that this is like another Afghanistan holds much credence, it's not like British troops are fighting in Syria, but unfortunately to an islamoloon an insult to one muslim nation is an insult to all, they are conditioned to believe they are at war with everyone including some sections of islam itself. Shia's don't like sunni's don't like ahmadi's don't like druze and so on down their whole perverted religion which coupled with tribal disputes between villages essentially means that the islamic nations don't tend to be good places to live and so naturally they move out only for the next generation to try and bring a little bit of home back into the system with the same tragic results.
Truly there is no place for islam in a civilised society.

Not our problem

In a week where the UK government struggles to actually get rid of a failed asylum seeker, comes another tale of someone we don't want trying to get back in our country.
Despite the fact that the guy is a known extremist and an explosives expert, naturally the usual suspects are up in arms over the UK governments attempts to keep someone out of this country.
Mail. (usual caveats)

An Iraqi terror suspect has become the first person to have his British passport revoked twice by the Home Secretary.
Hilal Al-Jedda, alleged to be an explosives expert, previously won a Supreme Court battle to have his citizenship restored, on the grounds that he had been rendered 'stateless'.
But Theresa May has now ordered him to have his passport taken away again, claiming his terror links make him dangerous to the British public.
The move will be welcomed by campaigners who have argued that Al-Jedda should be banned from returning to Britain.
However, human rights activists have spoken out against the decision, saying that it is unfair to strip someone of citizenship if they do not have a passport from another country.

It goes without saying that the guy is a muslim, whilst not all muslims are terrorists, a lot of terrorists are muslims and most atrocities committed in the world today are done by extreme islamic groups.
Naturally enough most sane people do not want terror suspects running around loose in the UK, particularly those who are known to be explosive experts, though what manner of expertise he has is not stated, still we'd be right to be cautious.
However the insanity of the human rights activists knows no bounds and I'm pretty sure they will attempt to use a lot of taxpayers money via legal aid to attempt to have the guys passport and right to terrorise return allowed by the courts.
Thing is that the fact that he may become stateless isn't really our problem, there are places like Somalia where he can go and live in an islamic paradise and not bother the civilised world. But no, the guy wants to come back to the UK because he'll get benefits, a house and time to plot in comfort here.
It remains to be seen if Theresa May will be successful,  her track record against the scum loving UK judiciary hasn't been a great one so far.
Still, I suppose it will keep him out whilst the wheels of justice turn (hopefully very slowly)

Lest we forget.

We are at war with a barbaric, totalitarian, fascistic, thought control system masquerading as a religion. It places its own above everyone else and delineates downward treating others as dirt beneath their feet to be subdued, conquered, raped, defrauded, used and abused. It recognises no equals, not even between men and women and our politicians have allowed it to take root in our country.
There should be no place for islam in a civilised society... not now, not ever.

A message from the EDL to the Archdruid of Canterbury

Telegraph.

The Archbishop of Canterbury has said he does not want to live in a "monocultural" society and condemned "unacceptable" and "inexcusable" attacks on Muslims over recent weeks.

Apart from the fact that there have been little or few attacks on muslims other than by muslims.
Of course he could be using the Tell Mama data which has been proven to be made up of course
Telegraph.

Tell Mama and Mr Mughal did not mention, however, that 57 per cent of the 212 reports referred to activity that took place only online, mainly offensive postings on Twitter and Facebook, or that a further 16 per cent of the 212 reports had not been verified. Not all the online abuse even originated in Britain.

I rather suspect the Archmoron is...
Perhaps he'd be better off looking at what the people he's defending are actually up too...

2001: "asians" behind most racist attacks:

news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/1160552.stm
2006: white people are the victim in half of racist murders ("political correctness stifling debate"):
www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2006/oct/22/ukcrime.race
Racist Murders of White Men/Women by Muslims
Lee Rigby (2013)
Kieran Crump-Raiswell (2013)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2356211/Gap-year-student-Ki...
William McKeeney (2012)
kafircrusaders.wordpress.com/2012/10/15/racist-muslims-asif-...
Victor Parsons & Keith Needell (2012)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2146328/Ali-Koc-Sadistic-ki...
Rosina Waller (2010)
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-essex-11889364
Christopher Folkes (2009)
www.lancashiretelegraph.co.uk/news/4786313.Teenager_kicked_B...
Keith Brown (2008)
www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1022815/BNP-hijack-murder-t...
Vicente Delgado (2007)
www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/146497/.html
Andrew Holland
www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news/2036526.thug_stabbed_victim_the...
Christopher Yates (2005)
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/4463142.stm
Mary-Ann Leneghan (2005)
news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/berkshire/4953362.stm
Kris Donald (2004)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Kriss_Donald
Gavin Hopley (2003)
scot.altermedia.info/insecurity-ethnic-mixing/justice-for-ga...
Charlene Downes (2003)
www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1552482/Missing-girls-body-p...
Ross Parker (2001)
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder_of_Ross_Parker

Aaron Dugmore, 9 (2013)

en.metapedia.org/wiki/Aaron_Dugmore
Christina Edkins, 16 (2013)

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2289518...-journey-school.html
David Ryding, 26 (2013)

www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/local-news...g-death-race-5098626
Danny O'Shea, 18 (2011)

en.metapedia.org/wiki/Danny_O%27Shea


It makes quite a list of people attacked, missing or murdered by the none indigenous of this country.
Yet what does the Archdruid do? He attacks those who are exposing the barbarism in society by using figures which appear to have been drawn from thin air!
He even mentions attacks on mosques, most of which after some sensational headlines go strangely quiet after it turns out the perpetrators weren't white or English.
Basically he's attacking the majority for something they haven't even done.
Astonishingly he doesn't mention the bloodstained borders surrounding islamic states next to non islamic ones. He doesn't mention the plight of the Copts in Egypt, the terrorised Christian communities in Iraq and Syria the persecution of Christians in Pakistan ...
Basically the list of islamic barbarism is endless and the Archmoron chooses to attack some minor (if true) incidents!
What happened to Lee Rigby was unacceptable... What happened next whilst bad doesn't even come close.
The Archmoron ought to read the sign held up by the EDL member and perhaps contemplate that before opening his ignorant mouth to shove his foot in it!

Different from Asians... I suppose

Apparently the police have arrested two men for trying to blow up a mosque. They are described as Eastern Europeans...
The left and the liberal political classes are said to be gutted that the perpetrators are not those horribly racist English, though are still pushing the boat out to try and find a link... any link to the men and the EDL.
Express.

West Midlands Police said two Eastern Europeans, aged 25 and 22, were detained by officers from the West Midlands Counter Terrorism Unit in Small Heath, Birmingham, at about 3pm on Thursday.
The pair have now been arrested under the Terrorism Act and are being questioned on suspicion of being involved in the commission, preparation or instigation of an act of terrorism following blasts near the Aisha Mosque and Islamic Centre in the Caldmore area of Walsall last month and the Tipton mosque last Friday.

I suppose I could point out that there are muslim enclaves in Albania and the former Yugoslavia and those muslims are Eastern European too along with a large segment of Turkey...
Also a quick look on Google Maps Streetview at where they were arrested (Talbot Way, Birmingham) unsurprisingly shows it is a fully Islamified area.
It's entirely possible they attacked the mosque because 'they' were the wrong type of muslims.
Of course this is pure speculation on my part, but it's not exactly unknown is it now? Shia's hate sunni's and they both hate the only decent bunch the Ahmadiyya muslims who were the only muslims to hold a tribute to Lee Rigby and have eschewed violence.
Still I'll wait and see, islams civil war still seems a likely suspect though.