Saturday, December 3, 2011

Without honour

There were over 2,000 so called "honour" attacks last year in the UK, mostly against vulnerable women and all committed by members of the other than white multicultural parts of our society.
BBC.

UK police recorded at least 2,823 so-called honour attacks last year, figures from 39 out of 52 forces show.
A freedom of information request by the Iranian and Kurdish Women's Rights Organisation (Ikwro) revealed that nearly 500 of these were in London.
Among the 12 forces also able to provide figures from 2009, there was an overall 47% rise in such incidents.
Honour attacks are punishments on people, usually women, for acts deemed to have brought shame on their family.
Such attacks can include acid attacks, abduction, mutilations, beatings and in some cases, murder.
Ikwro said its research, carried out between July and November, is the best national estimate so far of the extent of honour violence in Britain, although the charity says the figures do not give the full picture.
A quarter of police forces in the UK were unable or unwilling to provide data and communities have often been reluctant to talk about the crime, Ikwro said.
Its director Diana Nammi said families often tried to deny the existence of honour attacks and those who carried them out were "very much respected".
She told the BBC: "The perpetrators will be even considered as a hero within the community because he is the one defending the family and community's honour and reputation."
 The Western concept of honour was always to protect the weak and defenceless and the worst thing that used to happen in the occasional case of a knocked up daughter was a shot gun wedding. No, I'm not saying that we're saints or anything of the sort, just that our concept of honour never included mutilation, acid attacks, abductions or murder, certainly not these days. Nor can you escape the hypocrisy of the situation where many of the men in these communities see white western women as whores to be used yet will kill their own sister/daughters if they even attempt to live the same lifestyle as the men.
We really ought to change the wording of this sort of activity, there is no honour in it at all, though I'm a bit stumped as to what we could call it, something that when charged would bring ridicule and shame on the perpetrators would do, perhaps honour violation will do.
We'd probably have done this country a lot more good if we'd just allowed the ladies to come here and not their men. It seems we have opened the gates to barbarians in the name of multiculturalism and tolerance.

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Captain Haddock said...

"It seems we have opened the gates to barbarians in the name of multiculturalism and tolerance" ...


But it keeps thousands in jobs, don'tcha see ?

Anonymous said...

Dear Quiet Man

Hypocritical bullying

Hypocritical thuggery

Hypocritical abuse

Or replace 'Hypocritical' with 'Cowardly'.

DP

DerekP said...

Naming any part of these crimes 'honour' was a ploy on the part of the multi-culties, to make out that there was somewhere behind these savage crimes something good and respectable in the communities culture that had to be 'respected'.

The multi-culties may state the criminals say the motive was honour, but criminals frequently lie to make out that they didn't do anything wrong. They should be judged by their actions, not their words

These crimes should be called 'religious/cultural barbaric savagery'. Then when someone says 'honour violence' or 'honour killing' people will think RC-BS, and know the source thinking behind these acts is no part of our civilised society, and was 'imported' (thank you so much Tony Blair and NuLabour).

If the religions/cultures wish to be distanced from such violence they can publicly and repeatedly tell their community not to perform or assist such crimes, as these crimes will shame and dishonour their whole community.

John M Ward said...

Simple suggestion re terminology: replace "honour" by "horror". It even sounds similar & conveys any decent person's reaction.

Of course, making personal sacrifices for the sake of others is an honourable motive, but that's for the individual to give, not for others to forcibly take, especially in such ghastly and barbaric fashion.

This as described is on a par with Communism, where the individual counts for little if anything and the group (the State with Communism) can do anything it likes and the people fear it. This is almost exactly the same.

andy said...

john M Ward.
Your comment reminds me of a piece I once read by a respected islam watcher who described islam as being almost identical in its methods as communism.
Absurdly OTT and public displays of piety,
Hysterical denounciations of alleged offenders against the faith.
Brutal and public punishments of offenders.
Trials so rigged that a guilty verdict is inevitable,Etc etc ad nauseam.
Until the populace is so cowed that they dare not do or say anything against the orthodoxy and dogma out of pure fear for their own and their families lives.
The only real difference between islam and communism is that in islam brutal sexism and domestic abuse is openly condoned and accepted.