BBC.
The son of Islamic cleric Abu Hamza al-Masri has been jailed for 11 years over an armed raid on a Norfolk jewellers.Seems to be a clear cut case of Shariah thinking in action in that what non muslims have is to be taken by force from. After all if it was good enough for old Mo the fence
Imran Mostafa, 20, from Slough, was convicted with three London men at Norwich Crown Court in September.
Gems worth £70,000 were stolen from the shop in King's Lynn in January.
Jonathan Abdul, 18, from Fulham, was sentenced to 11 years, Ossama Hamed, 19, also of Fulham, to eight years and three months, and Ahmed Ahmed, 20, of Enfield, seven years and four months.
Judge Peter Jacobs said: "This was plainly a terrifying robbery.
"Staff were praying that they would not be shot and they continue to suffer trauma."
Mostafa's father Abu Hamza last month pleaded not guilty to terror charges in a New York court following his extradition from the UK.
8:41 And know that whatever ye take as spoils of war, lo! a fifth thereof is for Allah, and for the messenger (Mo himself) and for the kinsman (Mo's relatives)Then thievery is ok so long as it's not muslims stealing from muslims, then technically it's hand lopping time.
His father took a far bigger role of course with the kidnapping of tourists in Yemen, but again as they weren't muslims, they were fair game, at least to the mind of an Islamic.
And there lies the nature of the problem, not all muslims are terrorists/paedophiles but their religion does seem to throw them up at an alarming rate using the religion to justify the basest of motives and crimes.
I've said it before and I maintain it, there should be no place for islam in a civilised society.
Unfortunately, the left choose to disagree over Hooky Hamza, there's a puff piece over at the Guardian lamenting his extradition, whilst coyly never mentioning why he was actually extradited and trying to use Gary Mckinnon as somehow justifying not sending Hooky on his way.
Hard of thinking? yes, that will be a socialist for you...
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Stonyground says:
I think that it is an admirable trend, to refrain from automatically condemning alien cultural practices just because they are different from your own. As the world shrinks, in practical terms, and as different cultures are mixing more, we have to find ways to respect our differences just so that we can get along.
This approach seems to have been highly successful in the UK, with one single exception. A minority of Islamists seem to be simply incapable of living in peace with their fellow men. Their hypocricy is laid bare by the fact that they prefer to live in some Western Hell Hole, surrounded by evil infidels, rather than an Islamic Paradise where everyone knows how to behave, and wrong-doers are properly punished. Why on earth do they feel the need to create an Islamic society here, when there are lots of perfectly good Islamic societies ready made for them to go and live in? Oh yes, world domination, that's it.
Their love of technology might become a problem. Once the entire world has converted to Islam, Hi-Tech toys are going to become a bit scarce. Technology requires scientifically educated people to produce it. There are not too many practical applications for memorising a seventh century book in a language that you don't speak.
Being such a good and devout muslim,he must be gutted that he`s not getting his right hand and left foot cut off as allah has commanded for thieves?
What I thought particularly rich was the attempt to elicit sympathy by describing how isolated he was as a child as a result of his father's reputation:
"But attempts to socialise outside his home often failed because of who his father was. Friendships proved difficult because children would be told by their parents not to play with him."
Note the implication of rejection and overtures being cruelly rebuffed; straight out of the bleeding-heart, put-the-blame-on-someone-else handbook!
Stonyground says:
The thing is, Macheath, he does have a bit of a point. I don't automatically have a problem with Muslims, the ones that I have come into contact with have been freindly, hard working etc. but there are a minority who have moved to a Western country and then gone totally out of their way not to fit in. I know that we have to take his, pretty unreliable, word for it, but if he really tried to fit in and his efforts were always futile because of his relationship with his moronic father, then it is hardly surprising that he ended up in prison.
I know that I am making excuses for the guy but I think that were we end up in life is partly down to our own abilities and partly down to circumstances that we have no control over. If those circumstances are particularly bad, then it takes a very special person to overcome those shitty circumstances, and, lets face it, most people are not very special.
Well put, Stonyground. It's not that I am without sympathy - having grown up as an English child in small-town Scotland, I understand something about involuntary social exclusion myself - and I can see that these young men are at an age when juvenile idiocy can fatally combine with adult criminality.
My point is rather about the way the legal defence team seemed to be aiming for 'tout comprendre, c'est tout pardonner': it seemed to be going far beyond the usual statement of mitigation in an attempt to cash in on his father's notoriety.
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