Thursday, August 29, 2013

Not in my name, not in my interests

Cameron was whining to the press today about having to give up his cherished dream of emulating Tony Blair and leading his nation into war, albeit a war at arms length and not one that has anything to do with us.
Telegraph.
"The judgment of the Joint Intelligence Committee is that a chemical weapons attack did occur in Damascus last week; that it is highly likely that the Syrian regime was responsible; that there is some intelligence to suggest regime culpability; and that no opposition group has the capability to conduct a chemical weapons attack on this scale."
The Government's position on the legality of any action makes clear that if action in the UN security Council is blocked, the UK would still be permitted, under the doctrine of humanitarian intervention, to take exceptional measures including targeted military intervention in order to alleviate the overwhelming humanitarian suffering in Syria."
The Cabinet endorsed the recommendation from the National Security Council and the Prime Minister will set out the proposed government response in the House this afternoon.
Ok so it was Assad (probably), so what? Doesn't make him any less culpable than the atrocities committed against Christians and Assad supporters that has been committed by the rebels. This is a CIVIL WAR it has nothing to do with us whatsoever. I don't care if international law does not allow chemical weapons, it doesn't allow slavery either yet both appear to be practised by islamic states.
An Express Online poll revealed that only eight per cent of the public backed any form of intervention in Syria, I presume that those are the islamoloons infesting this country along with their allies in the hard of thinking leftist socialists, as they appear to be the only ones supporting the rebels, not even Galloway supports the fanatics whom Cameron wants to aid. A significant 41 per cent of people are against action by Britain in any circumstances, whilst only 39 per cent would only agree with a launch if the UN confirmed chemical weapons have been used by the Syrian regime and then sanctions a strike.
In other words we don't want to be drawn into a muslim problem, we have enough problems with them here.
Syria is not worth the life of a single person loyal to this country, if anything we could I suppose send our problem muslims to go fight for the rebels whilst arming Assad and dealing with their nuisance value that way.
Win win...

13 annotations:

Rickie said...

Wow Angry man, those hate filled racist anger rants you decided to repeat again are often mimicked by a couple of complete fuckwits that i work with , they too use English proud /civilised society type sayings.I steer clear of the dickheads due to the fact that once you hear ignorant racist rants this mindset also seems to transfer to most subjects where their ignorance is also apparent.

the muslims are the ones with the brains who are fluent in 3 languages, well travelled, a grasp of world politics and internal problems in the Islamic world, the EDL types Posing as great thinkers with the answers haven't a clue where Bradford or Hackney are located let alone syria or Eygpt.

I realise its extreme blogging nonsense so people comment, but i immediately put you in the same bracket as the fuckwits at work, except they probably wouldn't be able to keep a straight face whilst launching the rants you have made, maybe you are taking the piss too...who knows?

Anonymous said...

These fluent mufti-lingual Muslims can probably spell and punctuate English prose correctly and make an argument without foul language too.

They probably don't assume that someone is racist either when someone suggest that a problem in the Muslim world doesn't need to be 'solved' by those of us in 'the West'.

Rickie said...

In my experience spelling and punctuation are normally poor amongst most foreign workers despite being fluent speakers and its true they normally do not use foul language other than mimicking the EDL crowd when they casually chat with them about football or something.

Dickheads and fuckwits could be replaced with local inbred types who are pig ignorant as a description i suppose.

you are quite right(Anon 9.00) i'm sure they would agree that it's not racist to suggest the west should not solve a problem in the muslim world.

Angry has made some nasty hate filled racist rants in recent threads, he could have left those out with his problem solving ideas.

Angry wears his racism with pride just like the fuckwits at work do.

Anonymous said...

Fully agree Quiet Man. We should have as little to do with Islam as possible starting by kicking them all out of the UK. Send arms to Syria as well as aid and hope that they all end up exterminating each other, then we would have peace in the Middle East.

Quiet_Man said...

Care to tell me what race muslim is Rickie?
You come up with the usual epithets about the English and the EDL with no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim. It was muslims who butchers Lee Rigby, it was muslims who set off bombs on the tube and buses, it's muslims grooming our children, it's muslims who go off to Stockholm and set off car bombs. Yet you claim we don't have the right to get angry?
The only pig ignorant person spouting race hatred here is you and you're aiming it at the English.

Rickie said...

I have not claimed that you don't have the right to get angry, I have not spouted race hatred at the English, I have not said muslims are a race

I am commenting on your hate filled racist rants towards the people of Syria,

Perhaps we would agree your comments are much like Hitler towards the Jews, he the wanted the jews butchered as you want the Syrians butchered.

It's ignorant morons like you Angry man with extreme hate filled comments about Muslims etc that i belive is the reason political parties have ignored Immigration and cultural problems in this country for many years because they will get associated with BNP/EDL and Nazi types.

There probably is a lot of common ground between our views and that's the same i reckon for most English, unfortunately the "butcher em all " brigade such as yourself have ruined it for everyone

DerekP said...

Well done QM, it looks like you've bagged a
Wrickie 'why was i born white' Waaycist-wailer.

I think it was the "...the hard of thinking leftist socialists" that hooked it.

And it's a really thick one, too.
Didn't even make it to any of:
- the 'acid' test,
- FGM
- women's rights
- gay rights
- rule of Law (non-sharia)
- Free speech
- religious tolerance
- etc

Just blundered straight into the 'waaycist' name-calling bit while talking about muslims, and declaring how superior they are while oddly desperate to get over here.
Definitely worth a few points.

I think a bit about how Cameron-like they are might be almost as good.
Happy fishing in the stupid-barrel.

ageing man said...

Rickie....oooh Rickie..... focus on the message...focus on the message.... please don't try and shoot the messenger....where in this rant was the racism against Syrians ?

You say.... I am commenting on your hate filled racist rants towards the people of Syria.....

Now get this.... I fully endorse the sentiment and comments of this rant....

I'm not a fuckwit, I am not an extremist, I'm not even an ignorant moron.... I am just an oridinary middle aged working class neer'do'well.

What England woke up this morning my friend..... was at long last....fucking common sense.... time you got some perhaps ?

Quiet_Man said...

My goodness Rickie, you claim you aren't racist against the English yet and I quote
"a couple of complete fuckwits that i work with , they too use English proud /civilised society type sayings.I steer clear of the dickheads due to the fact that once you hear ignorant racist rants this mindset also seems to transfer to most subjects where their ignorance is also apparent."
Clearly you have a problem with certain groups of English therefore are racist in nature.
Also by your own standards we should have excused Nazi Germany the holocaust because the likes of Alfred Rosenberg, Martin Heidegger,Johannes Stark. Alfred Baeumler and other intellectuals supported the Nazi philosophy as your three language muslims support theirs.
Now the point you appear to have missed by a country mile is I have no beef with general Syrians, same as I have no beef with general anyone's. I do have a beef with islamics though and wish them nothing but ill fortune which is why I'm glad parliament came to its senses and refused to help the Syrian rebels who are guilty of their own barbarous war crimes. Executing prisoners, cannibalism, sawing off the heads of Christians using a bread knife etc.
So frankly I don't want to get involved, I don't want anyone to aid the rebels any more than I want to see Assad helped.
If that makes me racist, then so be it, others however (92%) of the country seem to agree with me.

Rickie said...

oh dear Angry man you should have kept quiet as your name suggests instead of showing your ignorance for all to see.


Angry said "Clearly you have a problem with certain groups of English therefore are racist in nature"........nope it dosen't mean that as you well know

2 English racists do not mean the English are by nature racist...certainly a minority of fuckwits most certainly are and are proud of it.

Angry said: "Also by your own standards we should have excused Nazi Germany the holocaust" nope i have not said that or implied it in any way.

Angry said: "Now the point you appear to have missed by a country mile is I have no beef with general Syrians"

this is what you have posted over 2 threads.

" Our only business should be selling both sides arms to butcher each other"

"Syria is not worth the life of a single person loyal to this country, if anything we could I suppose send our problem muslims to go fight for the rebels whilst arming Assad and dealing with their nuisance value that way.win win"


To be honest it's getting tiring having to correct your lies, twisting and squirming after each of your posts, your credibilty just sinks to a new low each time.

I stand by what i have posted, what you think i have said or wanted me to say or wished i had said dosen't fucking count.

I agree the majority is against intervention in Syria, i would have wanted more time to establish facts, evidence and International aggreement before deciding instead of the rushed fuck up that happened.






Quiet_Man said...

Once again you try to avoid your own ignorance in believing that you aren't racist. Your own words betray you, frankly your attempts to excuse your ignorance is demeaning to yourself.
Both the Syrian government and the rebels are barbarians and have breached international laws, yet you want the UK government to act on the side of the rebels who are if anything even bigger barbarians than the Syrian government.
My solution is simple, arm both sides and allow them to wipe each other out... simples.
Btw the sophistry on Nazi Germany won't wash here as you believe that intellectuals excuse barbarism and Nazi Germany had plenty of intellectuals.
Hence because Rudolph Hess couls speak three languages, we should excuse the slave labour he used to build the Nazi monuments in the same way you believe your muslim intellectuals speaking three languages excuses islam...

Rickie said...

yet again you post more fucking shite.

Still more "you believe" comments , i will not comment on excusing Nazi barbarism or muslim intellectuals excuses Islam

BECAUSE I HAVE SAID OR NOT IMPLIED IN ANYWAY ANYTHING ON THOSE SUBJECTS

I have used the word Racist, i know racists and i recognise them,i am not racist, infact having a lot in common with foreign workers due to me being fluent in another language, i often get called a dago/spic lover.

I am not going to reply to another comment, you can post more lies that you wished i had said without me replying

It's getting boring now.

Anonymous said...

Rickie:

You lost the moral high ground a long with the argument the moment when you connected a religion with racism.

I may not share yours or Angry's views, but the problem for me is that freedom of speech has taken a serious battering over the last decade. And in any society which is under, or going under a massive change which was not openly or honestly discussed, this basic and fundamental freedom, once lost can be difficult to reclaim.

Many of the unspeakable evils', whether they be carried out by people of a certain faith, mostly from the Indian sub-continent, or by white males like Jimmy Savile have one very disturbing theme. That they were allowed to continue because those who should have spoken up did not do so. The victim's, and yes let us not forget the real victim's had no voice. People looked away because they were frightened. Frightened about being called a racist, or frightened about being sued.

The Socialists were very clever in what they did. They wanted mass immigration because they wanted to gerrymander conservative areas and rub the rights noses in diversity. They did not care about the indigenous, mostly English people. And they certainly did not care about the people coming into this country. They viewed them as pawns in their game.

But in order to achieve this they need to create the mantra of racism. If you criticized their policies on immigration, you were a racist. Not an Nationalist like Alex Salmond who hates the English and openly discriminated against English students, or the establishment, that would rather eat molten larva than use the word English, much less give us our own Parliament. Now that is racism !

I, like Angry, have been sickened by the way in which I am treated by my own Government in my own country. Note I do not blame Muslims or anybody for this.

I am sick to death of seeing our Police devote considerable resources in hunting down a woman who shot her mouth off on a tram after being spat at. Yet, if you walk around with a sign calling for the death of British soldiers, nothing is done.

Angry is angry. And yes so am I. But what he and others are doing is speaking up for those who have been effectively silenced.

All it takes for evil to succeed is for good people to do nothing.

And as for the Syrians' I say this. I hope Assad wins. Not because I think he is a good guy - NO ! But because compared to all the others the Syrian people could have, he seems to be the least worse.

And as for our Muslims going too Syria to fight. They already are mate, they need no encouragement from our host. See link

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/footage-of-first-british-jihadist-killed-in-syria-shows-him-claiming-he-had-familys-support-8658114.html