Friday, September 16, 2011

What only others can say

It comes to something when we have to rely upon a representative of an ethnic minority group to say in the MSM what all the rest of us are thinking and occasionally saying to our friends about certain ethnic minority groups. Such is the hold of political correctness and not saying the "bleeding obvious" on our political representatives that for your average (white) politician to say what Baroness Flather did say would be tantamount to political suicide complete with ritual disembowelment from certain sections of certain sections of the media lead no doubt by politicians of the left.
BRITAIN’S first female Asian peer has stirred up a storm by claiming that some immigrant families have large numbers of children simply to milk the benefits system.
Baroness Flather accused ethnic minority groups, particularly Pakistani and Bangladeshi communities, of failing to adopt the “pattern” of UK family life.
She claimed debating it had been silenced through “political correctness” and called for benefits to be slashed to discourage claimants having extra children.
Lady Flather, 77, a former Tory now on the non-party crossbenches, made her outburst in a Lords debate on welfare reform on Tuesday.
The peer, born in Pakistan’s Lahore when it was part of India, moved to England to study for the Bar. She said: “The minority communities, particularly the Pakistanis and the Bangladeshis have a very large number of children and the attraction is the large number of benefits that follow the child.
“Nobody likes to accept that, or talk about it because it is supposed to be very politically incorrect. Well, I’m politically incorrect because there is no doubt about it that six or seven children give you a far larger income than three or four. I think it is about time we stopped using children as a means of improving the amount of money they receive or getting a bigger house.
“In the countries of origin, Pakistanis and Bangladeshis and even Indians have large families because there is no safety net. When you get old it is only your children who are going to look after you.
“This doesn’t apply here – every old person does have their pension and they will be looked after.”
She said that in education league tables Pakistanis and Bangladeshis came near the bottom, but Indian children came on top. “Indians have fallen into the pattern here,” she said.
“They do not have large families. They want their children to be educated. There is no emphasis on education in the Pakistani and Bangladeshi families.
Now statistically I don't know if this is true or not, though the growth rate population wise in certain ethnic Pakistani/Bangladeshi communities is still higher than the national average, in some cases 10 times higher, though slowing. However the statistics do show in education that for all there is no real difference between Indian ethnics and Pakistani ethnics on a genetic level, there is a marked difference in achievement. Not all of course, individuals continue to do well in certain cases yet it does appear as if we are sitting on a demographic time bomb of ill educated benefit drones far far worse than our current problem which is still sustained by a relatively well educated if ageing generation.
What I suspect is happening is the creation of a drone class controlled by a highly (privately) educated elite who by their religion will do what they are told, unlike the current white working class. That this is unlikely and improbable (the control bit) it does appear as if our political classes are encouraging it. Though the lessons in the current middle east and the so called Arab spring should really give them pause for thought. The loyalty of Pakistanis and Bangladeshi’s is not to a political elite, but to family, clan/tribe and their religion. Nationalism as such hasn’t the hold on them in the way it has on Western masses, nor do they have the work ethic of Northern Europe, the USA, ethnic Chinese or even Hindu Indians. They are fatalists, everything is the will of their god or in’shallah, improving their lot is directed inwards to the family, not necessarily their neighbours or even their nation. This is also a major barrier to integration as a whole as they cannot for cultural reasons see past their families and become part of the larger society in most cases. A true case of I’m alright Jack and to hell with the rest of you.
And yes, they are outbreeding us, yet such is the stigma of saying something politically incorrect, that it takes one of their own to actually say it out loud. Unless we get over this quickly, we’re doomed as a civilisation.

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English Pensioner said...

I went to a talk at a local family history society given by the local Registrar.
Apparently frequent attempts are made to register the same baby more than once with different mothers who explain that the child was not born in hospital (hence no paperwork) but at home without a midwife. She didn't specify any particular ethnic group as being the problem, but we all knew in which registration district she worked.

Eddie Willers said...

Regarding certain groups, you said, "They are fatalists, everything is the will of their god or in’shallah, improving their lot is directed inwards to the family, not necessarily their neighbours or even their nation"

That sounds a lot like the native population here in Mexico, who behave in exactly the same way once living in ethnic communities in the USA - no real sense of working to better the lot of your 'people', everything is for self and family.

Anonymous said...

Unfortunately the white underclass are also being paid to have children they can't afford and aho are mostly doomed to repeat the cycle. What we are doing to our country is criminal, glad I won't be around to see the outcome but my grandchildren will. I sometimes this country is committing suicide.

Anonymous said...

Polygamy is a business model that enables 'blood slavery' -- that is, it allows any man to start his own clan or otherwise labor intensive undertakings and to use the women and and children in their possession as breeders and workers.

Divorced women in polygamous societies frequently end up as work slaves for the real family of their new 'husband'(their family sells them!), and it's all legal -- there is no escape, and in Iran, even doctors and other professionals end up in this trap, education and a good job for those women is a danger not a boon.

Moreover, you don't need a spreadsheet to calculate that 4 wives can trivially produce 40 surviving children, say 20 are female and bring in dowry(etc) 20 are male, you keep 3 sons and then sell 17 boys into indenture... is very profitable. Now remember, that wives can be trivially discarded too, and so, a guy can get very rich over 20-40 years of running the 'family business'.

This is why polygamy was banned in sane societies and why it must be eradicated -- what the Baroness here is telling us is only a tiny glimpse of the real problem that is too gross for most people to even want to comprehend.

Destroy polygamy and you solve 90% of humanities' worst problems in an instant.