Sunday, July 24, 2011

Hatchet jobs

There is a saying that "A lie can be halfway around the world before the truth can get its boots on" and this seems to be the case in speculation about Anders Brehing Breivik and his links to the so called "Far Right" in the UK.
Guardian.
Anders Behring Breivik, the man accused of the murder of at least 92 Norwegians in a bomb and gun massacre, boasted online about his discussions with the far-right English Defence League and other anti-Islamic European organisations.
Well, I can't speak for all the EDL, I'm just an ordinary guy who supports them, however I can confirm from what I do know from various people higher up in the organisation is that until yesterday the EDL had not heard of him before.
Mail.
He is thought to have posted messages on a Norwegian website expressing admiration for the EDL and an extremist group called Stop Islamification of Europe.
It is Breivik’s online profile that has provided the authorities with most information about him so far.
His Facebook page, which was blocked soon after the killings, listed his interests as bodybuilding, ‘conservative politics’ and freemasonry. He also had a liking for violent video games and American TV drama series Dexter, about a forensic blood spatter pattern expert with the Miami police who hunts down and kills criminals in his spare time.
Express.
THE Right-wing psychopath behind ­Norway’s bloodbath was involved with the English Defence League, the Sunday Express has learned.
Twisted Anders Behring Breivik, who left 92 dead in a co-ordinated bomb and gun rampage, advised the EDL how to stir up anti-Islamic hatred.
He not only admired the far-Right group, but also harboured dreams of setting up Norway’s version to combat the country’s growing Muslim population.
This is also untrue, there already is a Norwegian Defence League, has been for months and no they haven't heard of him either.
PRESS RELEASE FROM NDL
It is with disbelief and sadness that we have received news of the tragedy at the government building and on the island.
Our goal has always been to provide information about the conflict between Western values and Islam, violence and terror is the means … we firmly reject.
The terrorist acts be connected with a person who is against multiculturalism and Islam, we must emphasize that the suspect has never been a member of our organization.
People who advocate violence, racism or extremism has been and will be banned from NDL.
This is in every way a setback for the debate in Norway. For us who want a fair debate, this is a situation we fear will be used against us. Our values are freedom of speech, equality, peace and democracy. It is our fear that the discussion will now end up in a track where our arguments are met with hatred and incoherent arguments.
But today is the day our condolences, thoughts and sympathies are with survivors, relatives of those killed, AUF and the Norwegian people.
A total NDL condemns the terrorist attacks on 22 July 2011. A date that will forever stand as a day of mourning in the country’s history.
Admin in NDL
I also have a few questions about this entire incident myself, perhaps they'll be answered one day though it might take a while.
  1. If Anders Behring Breivik was anti-Islam, why didn't he attack a mosque rather than government buildings on a day when the government was not working?
  2. How come he only set up his Facebook and twitter accounts 5 days ago. Straight away he is on FB with right wing stuff, and only one tweet. According to the Huffington Post he did have a Stormfront account which is no longer available and the Stormfront site is also apparently down.
  3. I do not believe that one man could assemble and prime a massive car bomb and set it off, all on his own. Then slip away, disguise himself as a policemen, travel 20 miles across the land connecting the two fjords, commandeer a boat (or passage on a boat) to travel across to the island, carrying nothing more than the unremarkable weapon a police officer would normally have to hand (as he doesn’t seem to have excited any suspicion until he opened fire on the assembled teenagers) whereupon he shoots 70+ people dead (some of the 93 deaths so far, for which he is responsible are by drowning while trying to escape). The A team couldn’t have managed that and there were 4 of them. And their adventures were fiction.
  4. If, as we are told, the Norwegian Prime Minister was due at the Island that day, why was the place not crawling with security as you just know it would be days before any such visit.
Personally I don’t believe that a ‘right wing Christian conservative’ gunman who hates Muslims and admires the EDL went berserk alone to kill 100 teenagers simply because that’s what right wing Christian conservatives do. Yet that, despite the evidence is exactly what the press want us to believe.

6 annotations:

POKEMON said...

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JuliaM said...

" He also had a liking for violent video games and American TV drama series Dexter..."

Me too. So what?

Good grief, but I loathe this kind of 'Ooooh, look, he was clearly a timebomb!' type reporting.

Next, they'll discover he's a smoker too!

AmbrosineShitrit said...

I said this many times since the event. Why did the Norweigen PM also say " our democracy will not be destroyed"..a christian doesn't want the end of a democracy ...we know who do though.....Why are they suppressing vital information, and how can 1 person do all that damage at the same time..No doesn't make sense

James Higham said...

Good to see your defence here. I was waiting for it, after reading that garbage in the media.

WitteringsfromWitney said...

Nice article QM. I do not understand the initial condemnation based on half-facts that happened on Twitter, for example. Yes, condemnation of the act, but the initial suspicion that it was Muslim inspired and carried out by one was jumped on by many - pathetic.

Being a cynic I tend to view all msm and political statements as questionable until proven correct.

Span Ows said...

Points 2, 3 and 4 are fine. Point 1 has been 'explained' elsewhere that he wouldn't do that as it would cause counterattacks by the Jihad loons. But I would add another point: why the Islamic claims of responsibility?...I suspect they have a cell there with a bomb planned and those that knew what but not who thought this was their work!

I concur with Ambrosines comment...I've posted it elsewhere too:

The Norwegian PM, as the losing bit of his speech said

"And that the answer to violence is even more democracy"

WTF?