Thursday, February 4, 2010

And so the betrayals begin

One of the things that EUsceptics like myself and others pointed out was that it opened the way to a massive raft of EU legislation being able to simply go through our parliament on the nod, without being scrutinised. We pointed out that even were such legislation to be not in the best interests of the country, it wouldn't matter anyway, it's not like our parliament had the power to even move a comma from such legislation.
Of course we were told by EUphiles that we were wrong, that such things couldn't and wouldn't happen and anyway the EU was simply full of fluffy goodness and that we were worrying over nothing, everything would be fine in EUland and who cares if a few ancient rights were trampled over such as habeus corpus, the Magna Carta and the Bill of Rights, after all we would be "allowed" new rights instead of taking them for granted.

You know, the odd thing is, it turns out we were right, amazing isn't it?

epolitix.
The government has been accused of treating Parliament "with contempt" in its fast-tracking of European measures to track alleged terrorist finances.
In an urgent question, the chairman of the Commons European scrutiny committee Michael Connarty said MPs had been denied the time set to examine opting in to EU measures under the Lisbon Treaty.
The Linlithgow and East Falkirk MP called for a statement from the government on the "breach of undertakings" to Parliament regarding the timescale of the opt-in developments.
Treasury minister Sarah McCarthy-Fry told the Commons that the agreement had "significant national security benefits".
Connarty said the events had been a "very bad start to the new process" on the assurance of the Lisbon Treaty.
"It's quite clear that someone is treating this Parliament with disdain and contempt," he said.
"Parliament is in fact being treated with contempt, possibly by the government."
He added: "Once again we are worried that the European Union will push these things aside and the government will just fall over and let them do what they wish."
Shadow Treasury minister Mark Hoban said it had been a "serious breach of an important undertaking" by the government and that Parliament had been assured that opt-in decisions would be given eight weeks of scrutiny.
"Let us be clear - as we speak there is no law in place to prevent terrorist suspects from accessing frozen assets despite the prime minister's repeated assurances, " he said.
"As a result of its incompetence, the government has failed in its primary duty to protect its citizens."

 Yes, that's right, our MP's are being ignored when it comes to pushing through EU legislation, they're citing "security" and these are the opt in decisions that the government made over Lisbon, you know that minor treaty that we were promised a referendum on by all major political parties only for them to renege on their word. Well now our MP's are seeing the wonderful world of Lisbon coming home to roost as they are denied time promised to them to scrutinise provisions of EU legislation and watch said measures go through at the nod by a government that sold us out in the first place.

In this instance I just hate being proven right and saying I told you so is cold comfort to me.

8 annotations:

Edgar said...

MPs are scoundrels: that much is beyond any reasonable doubt. One of the reasons they are scoundrels is that they do not bother to attend debates or even read the legislation they will be voting on. Too much business to be done in the bars, or too much lounging around on expensive furniture that we paid for in one of their multiple homes.

There is nothing for it. It all has to be swept away: it is too corrupt to be fixed.

James Higham said...

And even today, commenters are coming in and telling me that not everyone agrees - that some people like to be in the EU. What can one say to that?

Alfie said...

As a man who actually voted against staying in the then Common Market in 1975 (I was 22 at the time), the relentless programme of federalism since then has done nothing to assuage my concerns.

My late Granddad told me when I was very young that if you give a politician an inch, they will take a kilometre (although what he would think of the current crop of ne'r do wells, God only knows) - As a young man, he was so disgusted with politicians and the corruption that follows them around like a bad smell, he stood for parliament as an independent in the mid-thirties in a very heavy Labour area under the banner of the man that cannot be bought...

The end game for Europe is a United States clone with France and Germany pulling all the strings. The architects of the post war Coal and Steel Agreement knew it, Edward Heath, Geoffrey Rippon, Harold Wilson, Roy Jenkins, et al knew it also...

The bloody lot of them have connived their lies and spin into the mainstream - knowing that the real objecive, a super-state of Europe was the real deal.

Disgusting.

Captain Ranty said...

They gave away what wasn't theirs to give.

It was the major reason that I entered Lawful Rebellion.

Secession will be a long slow process, IF whoever wins the GE has the sand to secede. If we get Blue Labour we are in for the long haul.

They have spines of cooked spaghetti.

I blogged about it on 30 November. I was called a liar. I was told I was over-dramatic. Yet every word turned out to be true, and then some. I called it Theft Report and it remains my most read post, and even now several people a day come back to read it.

I only hope that some of them are MPs and they are squirming with shame. (Highly unlikely, I know. These people are without honour).

CR.

paulo said...

Democracy? Democracy?

We invade Iraq to give them democracy?

We invade Afghanistan to give them d.e.m.o.c.r.a.c.y.

I'd hang every last fucking one of them.



paulo

John R said...

And not one of the expense-stealing, weasel-wording, focus-groupie, promise-breaking, scumbag leaders of the main parties has the courage to ask the people what they want!!

Bastards all!!

Dean MacKinnon-Thomson said...

The European Union is constitutionally obiged as per Treaty obligations to respect the individual culture and aspirations of member-states. There is no question of some kind of socialist monolith crushing individuality between member-states.

Now that we have Lisbon passed, albeit completely watered down thanks to opposition, we can begin to rebuild a more democratic and functional EU. For all of us, and political harmonisation shall be neccessary.

After all, a spill over effect when one tries for an EU single market, for free trade and fair regulation is a degree of political harmonisation and "europeanisation". Especially for the UK.

Ultimately it comes down to whether or not we British are willing to rally to Edward Heaths call to arms: "it is time for Britain to take it's place in our common European destiny."

Hear hear!

Quiet_Man said...

Sorry Dean, but the EU has been a disaster for Britain, We pay more for food, have had our fishing stocks raped, lost sovereignty and now have EU legislation railroaded through our parliament without scrutiny.
We have been betrayed by succesive governments, promised referendums that haven't turned up.

It's time and past time we left.

Democracy requires scrutiny, where was the scrutiny of that bill?