tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post4758733457912443084..comments2023-06-11T13:12:20.435+01:00Comments on The Anger of a Quiet Man: You're not doing yourself any favours here...Quiet_Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comBlogger5125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-2542091606465389092012-03-15T06:23:44.663+00:002012-03-15T06:23:44.663+00:00I'm a little 'conflicted' with this on...I'm a little 'conflicted' with this one.<br /><br />This story 'smells' a little too. An autistic (you can't be specific since it is a spectrum disorder) in general follows routines, disliking change and novelty, yet here he is supposed to have simply jumped into a pool fully clothed? <br /><br />Then for an extended period resisted any attempts to remove him by his carers. Why extended, because the police, as far as I know don't base themselves at swimming pools.<br /><br />Then, when removed from the pool his carers walk away and leave it to the police to calm and control his behaviour? And further, the boy responds with what has to have been a substantial amount of violence to require restraints (something which is atypical, as opposed to forceful behaviour towards themselves).<br /><br />I have dealt with people with multiple different mental problems, including Aspergers and others on the autism spectrum, and I can't think of a single incident which would come close to having this sort of result (admittedly I'm no expert or even specialist with limited experince).<br /><br />So what really happened? Obviously I don't know but I suspect the boy has more than just autism (not unusual). I suspect that there was a significant incident which led to him entering (maybe even not voluntarily) the pool. I suspect the 'carers' were incompetent, incapable and just downright didn't do their job. I also suspect the police arrived to find a young man in the pool, removed him and then restrained him due to a violent reaction (all without either knowing or fully understanding his condition, not that either makes a difference in how he would react to them).<br /><br />So the police are vilified and the boy (or in reality his family and carers get a load of cash). Like I said, it smells.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-14738450100409548642012-03-15T05:40:53.583+00:002012-03-15T05:40:53.583+00:00If they don't appeal a wrong decision, they wi...If they don't appeal a wrong decision, they will be bound by it's precedent forevermore.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-86450972544631105042012-03-15T00:23:10.146+00:002012-03-15T00:23:10.146+00:00The problem is that front line ordinary police per...The problem is that front line ordinary police personnel and management, the instructions/policies they work under are always conflated into 'the police'.Woodsy42https://www.blogger.com/profile/12355671210161625647noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-81939391110799394182012-03-14T16:40:19.855+00:002012-03-14T16:40:19.855+00:00I am giving them a break, I don't have a probl...I am giving them a break, I don't have a problem with them doing as they did, however I don't think appealing against the decision is the smart thing to do.Quiet_Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-55535786220623980682012-03-14T15:14:32.320+00:002012-03-14T15:14:32.320+00:00And so the next time they don't restrain one, ...And so the next time they <i>don't </i>restrain one, and he hurts himself, they wind up in the dock for that too?<br /><br />Give them a break here - they really ARE damned if they do, damned if they don't.JuliaMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07844126589712842477noreply@blogger.com