tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post4471711900512279649..comments2023-06-11T13:12:20.435+01:00Comments on The Anger of a Quiet Man: Well here's to you Mr RobinsonQuiet_Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comBlogger14125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-72590939612512439242011-02-05T22:22:54.106+00:002011-02-05T22:22:54.106+00:00I had not heard of the EDL until I saw Tommy Robin...I had not heard of the EDL until I saw Tommy Robinson vs Paxman on the BBC. He came accross to me as having with well thought out arguments that Paxman could not counter.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-6277210943275233962011-02-03T21:52:55.368+00:002011-02-03T21:52:55.368+00:00Quiet Man most interesting post. Looking at the ...Quiet Man most interesting post. Looking at the BBC report into the EDL it was almost as though they had dispatched one of their Foreign correspondents to a faraway land of which we know little and care less!! <br /><br />There is a complete disconnect between our political elites and the ordinary people of our country. Our rulers and commentariat simply cannot understand a grassroot organisation like the EDL. They dont understand honest stated intentions. They dont understand that a movement may not have a hidden agenda. They have no respect for the working class unless it espouses a socialist attitude. Please see below a few lines from G K Chesterton's wonderful poem The Secret People. They are so incredibly appropriate to today's situation. THE PEOPLE OF ENGLAND ARE BEGINING TO SPEAK!! <br /><br /> <br />And a new people takes the land: and still it is not we. <br />They have given us into the hand of new unhappy lords, <br />Lords without anger and honour, who dare not carry their swords. <br />They fight by shuffling papers; they have bright dead alien eyes; <br />They look at our labour and laughter as a tired man looks at flies. <br />And the load of their loveless pity is worse than the ancient wrongs, <br />Their doors are shut in the evening; and they know no songs. <br />We hear men speaking for us of new laws strong and sweet, <br />Yet is there no man speaketh as we speak in the street. <br />It may be we shall rise the last as Frenchmen rose the first, <br />Our wrath come after Russia's wrath and our wrath be the worst. <br />It may be we are meant to mark with our riot and our rest <br />God's scorn for all men governing. It may be beer is best. <br />But we are the people of England; and we have not spoken yet. <br />Smile at us, pay us, pass us. But do not quite forget.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-47248115344436644202011-02-03T21:05:21.022+00:002011-02-03T21:05:21.022+00:00I'm sensible and I support the EDLI'm sensible and I support the EDLAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-89986254032244248752011-02-03T17:43:33.747+00:002011-02-03T17:43:33.747+00:00I'm Scottish and I support the EDL.I'm Scottish and I support the EDL.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-56417994753483852122011-02-03T12:18:50.605+00:002011-02-03T12:18:50.605+00:00Oh yes, I'm not saying your wrong about the pr...Oh yes, I'm not saying your wrong about the problems the EDL can bring to a town. Just that the demo's are not all there is to the EDL.Quiet_Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-92019541872771967362011-02-03T11:46:06.901+00:002011-02-03T11:46:06.901+00:00Lets agree to disagree eh!....;)Lets agree to disagree eh!....;)The Lizard Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04998390126043527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-12709777589294841622011-02-02T19:58:13.672+00:002011-02-02T19:58:13.672+00:00None so blind as those who will not see. The EDL d...None so blind as those who will not see. The EDL don't target ordinary people, nor did they target you. The UAF on the otherhand believe in shutting down all debate calling on the government to silence the EDL, physically attacking the EDL when they can, using union money to pay for their demonstrations (money taken from ordinary guys) Frankly to compare the two organisations demonstrates a lack of cognisance on your part. One believes in freedom of speech and freedom of assembly with one law for all. The other supports violent terrorists and believes in attacking normal law abiding citizens, shutting down debate, attacking the police and keeping up a constant barrage of lies and misinformation.<br />Frankly if you can't tell the two apart there's no hope for you. The EDL are far more than football hooligans, the vast majority of them don't go to football matches, don't have criminal records and don't believe in the use of violence to achieve their aims.<br />The EDL's mission statement is <a href="http://englishdefenceleague.org/content.php?176-Where-we-are-heading" rel="nofollow">here</a> I repeat, they are not what you believe they are, though I don't believe you even want to know what they are. I've watched them for months, debated with them on their forum and whilst they have their problems with their image, mostly they are just ordinary people fed up to the back teeth with militant Islam and our governments pandering to it.<br />You on the otherhand would appear to have no problems living under sharia law, after all you wont do anything about its implementation other than attack those who seek to stop it. What have you done to prevent the Islamisation of the UK? Or is that another figment of the EDL and others imagination?Quiet_Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-57919831684610970192011-02-02T18:49:30.416+00:002011-02-02T18:49:30.416+00:00Quiet Man,
The EDL and UAF are both cheeks from t...Quiet Man,<br /><br />The EDL and UAF are both cheeks from the same backside shitting on our streets as far as I`m concerned, what have your violent demo`s actually achieved, how many Sharia courts have you stopped?, let me guess none, and I couldn`t give a shit if people want to live under sharia, in will never replace Euro law.<br /><br />Save me the working class football supporter saving the country bullshit, the only reason most of them turn up is for a ruck because football matches are so expensive and tightly controlled, what is this need to be surrounded by tough guys and strutting your stuff abusing ordinary people going about their business.<br /><br />You`ll never convince me, 98% of them just turn up for a piss up and to kick off with some Muslim shop keeper or lefty, problem is I`ve seen your heroes live and in action, its the drunken mob mentality, abusive, aggressive and vicious, like all drunken angry mobs justice and proportion goes out of the window.<br /><br />They`ve achieved nothing, even their beloved leader makes a complete twat of himself, naming himself after some football hooligan FFS that says it all frankly.<br /><br />I respect anyones right to protest I don`t respect anyone who`s targeting ordinary folk going about their business and thats what happened here in Nottingham, xmas shoppers FFS, no one has asked working class thugs to invade their city centre`s and cause mayhem that I know of FAIL MASSIVE FAIL.....;)The Lizard Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04998390126043527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-27860224028872238952011-02-02T18:11:02.739+00:002011-02-02T18:11:02.739+00:00The Nottingham demo was over a year ago when EDL n...The Nottingham demo was over a year ago when EDL numbers were smaller and the opposition far more violent and uncontrolled. 11 were arrested on the day, 9 of whom were not EDL.<br />Now you don't like the EDL demo's, as they intimidate you and cost money, fair enough. Now, what would you like to happen about radical Islam and Sharia law? Ignore it? They wont be ignored, there are already over 100 Sharia courts running in this country dealing out civil justice Islamic style meaning no women's rights, homophobia as written into Islamic law. Do the EDL fly planes into buildings? Drive cars loaded with fuel canisters wrapped in nails at airport entrances? Blow up tubes and buses with ordinary people on them? Demand their own laws for their own people? Demand their own banking system that disadvantages our own? Send their converts out to fight our soldiers in other countries? Send their converts out to blow up people in Sweden? Do the EDL run paedophile networks?<br />The EDL are a symptom of what is happening in this country, they are not the cause. It should not have been up to the working class football supporters to take it upon themselves to deal with it, however they did and that's why there has been trouble on some marches, as well as the singing and chanting. You may not like it, but at least they got of their arses to do something. You may decry their efforts, but at least they are trying. You hate the expense, but someone had to make it known that the behaviour of some Muslims should no longer be tolerated in this country. Yes it's expensive, but uncontrolled immigration a lot of it from Islamic countries has driven a lot of people to the edge as they wont integrate and expect us to adhere to their values and all the 7th century barbarism that goes with it.<br />Somebody had to make a stand, it wasn't the bloggers, it wasn't the libertarians and it wasn't the middle class or politicians, it was the ordinary working class white guys.<br />They made a stand, they said no more and you want them to go away? Be thankful they wont, because if they do, Islam will cause a lot more problems for the UK, look at France to see what happens next in their Banlieu's.Quiet_Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-1857236531955837702011-02-02T17:54:18.003+00:002011-02-02T17:54:18.003+00:00It's a real pleasure to see those biased, Left...It's a real pleasure to see those biased, Lefty Beeboids shoot themselves in both feet, QM.Barking Spiderhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00968827142725464915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-78988903586673270832011-02-02T17:19:16.269+00:002011-02-02T17:19:16.269+00:00Quiet Man,
I don`t remember them clearing up the ...Quiet Man,<br /><br />I don`t remember them clearing up the mess they left in Nottingham City centre, or apologizing to the ordinary folk who were at the receiving end of their abuse and aggression, I don`t remember them offering to pay the policing bills they left us taxpayers with, I don`t recall them offering to compensate the shop keepers who lost trade, none of the people affected by the EDL/UAF roadshow were peado`s, sharia advocates, muslim gangsters or terrorists.<br /><br />Like I said, a waste of time money and energy!...ours!The Lizard Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04998390126043527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-55794170406896874922011-02-02T16:59:40.902+00:002011-02-02T16:59:40.902+00:00There's a lot more to the EDL than the demo...There's a lot more to the EDL than the demo's. Yes the chanting and songs are intimidating, but they aren't aimed at shoppers, plus most of the trouble at demo's comes from those opposed to the EDL, certainly the arrest ratio seems to indicate this running at approximately 9 to 1 in the EDL's favour.<br />As for them achieving nothing, well a support base from a few score to 70,000 in just two years would indicate that they are reaching out to a lot of people. They also leaflet, support community projects and when the students covered the Cenotaph with graffiti in London, the EDL came down and helped clear it up.<br />A lot of this goes unreported in the media who like you concentrate on the demo's as there is more chance of getting something newsworthy from them. But as I said, there is a lot more to the EDL than meets the eye.Quiet_Manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-78077718429843408792011-02-02T16:37:51.566+00:002011-02-02T16:37:51.566+00:00Hi Quiet Man,
Yeah I saw this clip over at The Fi...Hi Quiet Man,<br /><br />Yeah I saw this clip over at The Final Redoubt, I don`t have an issue with concerns over sharia, rapists ,peado`s etc, anyone with half a brain would condemn that.<br /><br />My problem is it`s all very one dimensional, its large groups of men arriving uninvited into city locations chanting abuse at, fighting with and intimidating locals.<br /><br />Don`t tell me it isn`t so, I`ve seen them in full cry live here in Nottingham abusing xmas shoppers,<br />and of course they attract other self righteous mobs in opposition to further shit on our streets....no offense but they are achieving nothing!, just alienating ordinary folk like me, ordinary folk don`t do thugs trying to "educate" them through aggression.The Lizard Kinghttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04998390126043527252noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-46229566196019971012011-02-02T15:00:11.494+00:002011-02-02T15:00:11.494+00:00not articulate and polished by any means,
I rathe...not articulate and polished by any means,<br /><br />I rather like that. I'm fed up with 'articulate' meaning 'weasely' and 'polished' meaning 'manipulative'.<br /><br />Yes, it gets it over: the BBC is in denial about what people are seeing on the streets.Woman on a Rafthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08897415591130901416noreply@blogger.com