tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post3893037275259300416..comments2023-06-11T13:12:20.435+01:00Comments on The Anger of a Quiet Man: Wonder what the excuse will be at the next election?Quiet_Manhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09575652127079681825noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-4020751681500992722010-12-28T09:36:32.174+00:002010-12-28T09:36:32.174+00:00It always was going to come back on us.It always was going to come back on us.James Highamhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14525082702330365464noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-49646680726914380112010-12-27T22:46:09.265+00:002010-12-27T22:46:09.265+00:00PFI s a disaster simply because the Civil Service,...PFI s a disaster simply because the Civil Service, the various Local Authorities and the NHS do not have competent contract negotiators. As a result, they were taken for a ride with every contract. Many companies negotiate with others to provide buildings and facilities, or go for sale and lease back, but you can rest assured that they ensure that they don't pay a halfpenny more than they have to and all their contracts will have suitable break clauses. But not the government.<br /><br />This problem of incompetent contracts negotiators doesn't only apply to PFI, it applies to most government contracts, look at their computer contracts and the shambles with MoD contracts.<br /><br />One of the problems is that Civil Servants are obsessed with using the biggest companies, which they claim can be trusted to give a "fair price" and thus there is never any real competition. When I worked as an engineer for a government authority, I was refused permission to let a contract for a particular job with a small company where it would have cost about a quarter of that being charged by a major company. The stated reasons? "Its far to cheap so there must be a snag and the company could go broke before completion". The real reason - "If we go to the biggest company in the field and it goes wrong, we can't possibly be blamed and it won't affect our careers".<br />I had the last laugh - the selected company went broke and my preferred small company picked up the pieces!<br />Unfortunately, this doesn't happen often enough.English Pensionerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15271488641341955140noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-43819959121673914802010-12-27T16:27:23.665+00:002010-12-27T16:27:23.665+00:00There's an old saying that if you borrow a pou...There's an old saying that if you borrow a pound it's your problem, but if you borrow a million pounds it's the banks problem.<br /><br />Now these PFI companies have spent billions, not just mere millions, building hospitals, schools and other things for the state. They are now hoping that every year from now on the state will pay them ridiculously huge amounts of money in return. So who has the problem?<br /><br />I know I have just entered the realms of fantasy, but if Mr Maude or Mr Pickles (for example) went to each of the PFI companies and said to them; stuff your contract we're not using your cleaners unless the cost comes down to '£x"; we're not paying you what you agreed with the monocular mentalist, instead we'll pay you '£y' and so on we could get the deals down to something reasonable.<br /><br />Remember, if the state just pulls the plug all the PFI companies go bust. They might shout about legal action but it wont matter, they'll be bust, their shareholders will lose out, their managers will be on the street and totally bonus-less. So rather than lose everything a hard nosed renegotiation could put these deals back onto a sensible commercial footing.<br /><br />But than BAe got away with their criminal carrier deal and no-one faced them down, I have no great hope of anything different happening over the latest rip off revelation.JohnRShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07021101596935644363noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-3875365454966245098.post-35469152974397840802010-12-27T14:12:16.161+00:002010-12-27T14:12:16.161+00:00PFI is a disaster for tax-payers, and was always c...PFI is a disaster for tax-payers, and was always clearly so. It is difficult to find a rational reason why the socialists did this to the country. I expect you are right, that it comes down to their utter lack of economic understanding, perhaps supplemented by brown envelopes stuffed with money.Trooper Thompsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01505221473081871071noreply@blogger.com